Monstermaster13's response: Tim Burton article
Hello here, it is me monstermaster13 here. This time I am not doing a list or salute but rather a response to an article I read.
The article in question is tittled 10 Examples Of Tim Burton Hating Fat People on the site Film School Rejects.
The person who wrote this seems to think that Tim Burton hates overweight people, and as such made this statement:
"Tim Burton is not a fan of the horizontally-challenged.
That's the conclusion I reached from watching Frankenweenie, an otherwise very pleasant return to form for for the director. What isn't so pleasant is how every paunchy character — the mayor, the gym coach, and the chubby kid whose name doesn't matter — is cackled at by Burton and turned into a visual punch-line. Burton portrays these characters in a way that seems antithetical to how most people perceive him and his films… with a casual dash of mean-spiritedness.
The one constant in Burton's films, aside from Johnny Depp obviously, is that he's always championed the outcasts and made them the eventual heroes of their worlds. Think of the Goth cutter Edward Scissorhands defeating the jock bully, the goofy Amish kid saving the day in Mars Attacks, the friendless Charlie Bucket outlasting the truly bad kids to win the chocolate factory, etc.
Looking back at his work, though, it seems clear that Burton himself has been acting the bully when it comes to even the mildly obese. They're made to be clumsy, goofy, obnoxious and irritating, and if they don't exist strictly as a visual gag they're almost sure to be a villain. Can you think of one overweight hero or true good guy in his films? I can't.
Why would a man so feverishly in favor of defending and uplifting outsiders himself single out a specific group of people to consistently bully throughout his career?"
Ummmm...overweight people have been crudely stereotyped in the media before, you know - in fact it goes back to the old days of slapstick comedies and the like. What makes you think that Tim Burton is following that tradition?
And furthermore....you've put them into two categories "Villain" and "Punchline". Isn't that technically stereotyping as well?
The first example mentioned is:
"1985′s Villain: Francis Buxton (Pee-wee's Big Adventure)"
'There is nothing to the character of Buxton aside from a hatred of Pee-Wee and a desire for his bicycle. On paper Francis is a misunderstood, tragic figure. He's got his daddy's money, but he's utterly friendless. Pee-Wee is loved by everyone, idiosyncrasies and all, and yet he can't help out the poor, lonely Francis and just giving him a damn bicycle? Both Pee-Wee and Burton hate this empathetic man, and it can't only be because he wants to feel the wind between his legs."
Now I have not seen Pee Wee's Big Adventure in a long time but the character of Francis IS supposed to be a bully and Pee Wee's main arch nemesis, but you have to remember that he was horrible to poor Pee Wee throughout the movie.
Also......that bike is Pee Wee's favorite thing in the whole universe. It's like what Teddy is to Mr Bean. It's not just a plain old bicycle, it's his only and one bicycle and the ones he's frequently seen riding on.
Nice going Film School Rejects, way to miss the point.
Next we move onto:
"1988′s Punch Line: Otho (Beetlejuice)
Otho is the biggest snob in a movie filled with snobs, and once again we're dealing with another one-note caricature pitted against attractive, pencil-stick protagonists. Burton uses Otho's weight to show how privileged and pretentious he is, that he eats whatever he wants in his sight, with no other reason whatsoever. Did Burton ever consider that Otho has a lot going on his life? Maybe he's a stress eater whose wife left him? I mean, who really knows what's going on in Otho's head? All Burton knows is that he's too big to be cool and multi-chins are funny when they're scared."
Well duh, of course Otho is a snob - he's SUPPOSED to be like that, you ding-bats! Ummm....are you sure you're not talking about a different big guy here? Because to me it seems that you haven't seen Beetlejuice at all.
It seems to me that you are mixing Otho up with Mr Creosote from Monty Python's The Meaning Of Life or Bluto from Animal House. I don't recall Otho going on an eating spree.
Because I don't recall Otho's weight being used as part of the joke. And like I said earlier....Otho is SUPPOSED to be pretentious and snobbish, he's an artsy type and as such he's supposed to be obnoxious and annoying. Heck....the action figure I have of him isn't called Otho the Obnoxious for nothing, you know.
As for what's going on in his head, he does say that he intends to make the old Maitlands house a tourist attraction by redecorating it - so that's what he was thinking.
his wife so to speak didn't leave him, i'm pretty sure that the Beryl character is supposed to be his wife - or at least a relative of his.
If you didn't know why he freaked out when BJ turned his clothes into a powder blue leisure suit here's why: Otho is very fashion savy, so to him anything that is deemed out dated or unstylish is frowned up - so to him, having to wear something as ridiculous as a pwoder blue leisure suit would be a fate worse than death. And yes I do kind of admit that it's funny seeing him freak out. I still feel very sorry for him though. *picks up Otho action figure* There there Otho, it's alright, I still love ya.
Do more research next time. Please.
On to our next example:
"1989′s Villain: Eckhart (Batman)
Eckhart is the only plump character in any of Batman's major roles, and he's easily the most disgusting character around. Not an easy feat when you compare him to a moderately chubby psychopath like The Joker. He's also super corrupt. Why? Burton's response would probably be, "Because he is big, and a Gotham cop's salary don't pay for that appetite." No other explanations are given so what else can we assume? Batman doesn't need a meditative look into the inner-workings of a filthy cop, but Burton mainly lets the audience know he's filthy based on his appearance alone."
I don't remember this character being in the movie that much, but I don't think he would count as a 'villain' based on looks alone.
Again, this just seems really shallow of you to do something like this, basing one's character on their looks. So to you....big fat guy who happens to smoke a lot and be a criminal = disgusting filthy villain, does it?
And the Joker is NOT chubby, Nicholson was about in his 40's or 50's when Batman first came out, and most depictions of the Joker are tall and skinny.
If you actually did more research before making this assumption, then you would have been able to fix the mistakes you made here.
Now we move onto:
"1992′s Villain: The Penguin (Batman Returns)
Nothing but bad things happen to The Penguin. Pee-Wee was probably bugged more by his size than his penguinness, knowing Burton. The Penguin's shape make sense since he is half-penguin after all, but Burton once again goes out of his way to poke fun at his size. When you see the villain on the little remote control cute ducky device, it's meant to be funny because he is too big for it, not because he is controlling the Batmobile with such a ridiculous device."
Well of course Oswald Cobblepot aka the Penguin is a villain, he's one of the most well-known Batman villains in history.
And yes he's SUPPOSED to be short and chubby - after all he is physically made to look like a penguin - flippers and all.
Technically the scene with him on the kiddie ride is NOT to make a fat-joke, but rather a way for him to control the Batmobile using a remote control device.
Regarding the character, of course he was made to be loathesome in this, that's what made parents complain about it and resulted in the McDonalds toy promotion tie-in getting the axe. Stupid angry soccer moms.
The inspiration for Devito's performance as the Penguin was a sketch that Tim did of a character known as the Hideous Penguin Boy, which would later be seen in The Melancholy Death of Oyster Boy and Other Stories.
This is just another fine example of....Not Doing Research on What You're Supposed To Be Talking About.
Now we move onto this one:
"1993′s Villain: Oogie Boogie (The Tim Burton-produced A Nightmare Before Christmas)
The lovable hero here couldn't be skinnier, so of course the final villain couldn't have been fattier. Why couldn't the Oogie Boogie man have been skinny too? Wouldn't the terrifying design still have been effective? Or do Burton and director Henry Selick believe the horror comes purely out of his size? On a more logistical and nitpicky level, how can the Oogie Boogie man be so big? What does he eat? How can he eat? Too many questions gone unanswered by Burton & Co."
Like I said, yes Oogie is a villain. And a damn fine one at that. But do you know why the reason Oogie Boogie is a big guy in this?
You know those pillows and stuffed animals you have cuddled when you were little? Weeeelll...much like a stuffed animal, Oogie Boogie has 'stuffing' of sorts inside him that keep him from falling apart.
And what is that stuffing you ask? Why it's bugs, if he is unravelled he comes apart and all his bugs fall out. That's why he's portrayed as a big guy in this movie.
I know some people have deemed him a bit racist because he's voiced by an African American, but I think that's just the case of soccer mom stupidity.
Plus he's a tribute to Cab Calloway. Well in terms of singing anyway. And you don't think Oogie can be terrifying? They didn't build up all the suspense leading up to his appearance for nothing, you know.
Hell...why not bring up the Mayor of Halloweentown as well? Since he's short and chubby as well. He's more of a comedic take on the phrase "two-faced politican" though.
Now we look at:
"1996′s Punch Line: Billy Glenn Norris (Mars Attacks)
Burton loves it when this character dies considering it's made out as one of the funnier parts of Mars Attacks. What's weird though is that deep down Billy Glenn Norris is just a guy who wants to serve his country. He's a natural born soldier, but considering how much he's mocked in the film you have to ask yourself… does Tim Burton hate all of our troops or just the chubby ones?"
First of all. Jack Black didn't really became all that famous until he was in High Fidelity, and at the time Mars Attacks came out he was only in a few minor movie roles (i.e Demolition Man, Never Ending Story 3, Waterworld, and a few others) and he doesn't look all that 'chubby' in that photo either - in fact in the movie he looks kinda skinny.
Yes he's a soldier, much like John Candy in Stripes. But is it really his fault for what happened? No. You have to remember that the aliens in this movie are a little crazier and more chaotic than most alien visitors are.
True this is the third movie Jack has been killed off in, but that was for comedic effect and only his lower half was evaporated.
'Research? What's that?'
Now we move to the 2000's with:
"2001′s Punch Line: Limbo (Planet of the Apes)
Limbo is more grating than Mark Wahlberg in this movie, which is saying a lot. Nearly all the other apes are strong and commanding, but the main one we see who isn't so fit is conniving, obnoxious, and lazy. Limbo is out for himself for most of the movie and doesn't care about the greater ramifications of what he's doing. In a sense, he's more vile than the more violent apes of the movie because he's out purely for himself. The meanest ape of all happens to be the chubbiest. Surprise."
Ummmm......Limbo was actually quite a harmless character, he's not a villain, and he's certainly not all that bad.
In fact he's actually one of the few that helps our hero escape by the end of the movie. As for his size.
Gorillas and Orangtuans are certainly the biggest of the ape species, but in contrast to how big and gruff they look they are actually quite intelligent. Not to mention gorillas are awesome!
As for most of the apes coming off as vicious and antagonistic well that's the purpsoe, they absolutely HATE humans and the only apes that aren't vicious are Ari and Limbo among others.
And i'm surprised that you didn't bring up Senator Nado, given that he's played by Glenn Shadix who also played "Otho".
Which brings us to:
"2003′s Villain: Don Price (Big Fish)
Done Price isn't a bad guy by most villain standards. He is a bit of a jerk, especially his "that's my girl!" shtick, but did he deserve to die of a heart attack because Edward Bloom always overshadowed him? No. Besides letting off some steam on Bloom's face, he never did anything horrible in the movie. Unlike Boom, Don Price never abandoned his family or literally annoyed his son to tears, and yet he suffered the younger and funnier death between them."
Now I haven't seen Big Fish, all I know is that Danny Devito plays a ringmaster who happens to be a werewolf.
But if the Done Price character comes across as being a jerk in this movie, that's because he either is or is made to be the antagonist.
And how exactly is his death considered funny? In real life if one is overweight they are prune to health problems including risks of dying at a young age - it's nothing to laugh it, especially if you've read about John Belushi, Chris Farley and John Candy and how they died - of course Belushi and Farley died of an overdose, but Candy's death was a heart attack - since he had a history of heart problems in his family.
I'm sorry but I am just not buying this one bit, are you technically saying that you're right about Burton making overweight people villains or 'punch-lines' as you put it? Well i'm sorry to say this but you're wrong.
With that done we move onto:
"2005′s Punch Line: Augustus Gloop (Charlie and the Chocolate Factory)
Doesn't this picture say it all?"
What? You're not going to go into a specific reason why you think that Augustus qualifies as a 'punch-line'?
Being that this movie is based off a Roald Dahl book, you should know that the kids are always extremely naughty in some way except for a few good kids and the adults are portrayed negatively.
In Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, the 4 bad kids all represent a negative aspect about children: Mike Teevee is obssessed with tv and video games, Violet is over-competitive, Veruca is spoiled, and Augustus enjoys eating way too many sweets.
You should know that by now if you haven't already, that is if you've actually read the book or saw the movie.
And finally we move onto:
"2012 Punch Lines: Every Sizable Character (Frankenweenie)
Out of all of Burton's bashing, this is the strangest example. At the heart of Frankenweenie is a kind-natured, gentle story of a boy and his best friend. But the way the Mayor, that one kid behind the Sea Monkey experiment, and the gym coach are handled feels tonally inappropriate. Why have a nasty joke in a movie going for a big heart? Then again, that question could be asked of most of Burton's movies."
So...you're just going with pretty much not just one character here but a bunch of them? You're not going to be specific about why you think they're considered a punchline according to you? Oh okay then.
To be fair, I have not seen Frankenweenie yet but I plan to. But the fact still stands....that you don't know what you're talking about!
Also....wouldn't Mr Everglot from the Corpse Bride be considered on this list as well? Or Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee? How about Aunt Sponge from James and the Giant Peach?
To conclude this I say this article was the worst article i've ever read and i'm sure a certain artist friend of mine will agree.
You clearly did not do the research before publishing this article and it shows, with several mistakes that could have EASILY been corrected. You clearly don't know Tim Burton films as much as you claim to.
Just because there is a chubby character in a Burton film, doesn't mean that they will be a villain or 'punchline'.
Film School Rejects, you FAIL!
I'm Monstermaster13, and this has been my response to 10 Examples of Tim Burton Hating On Fat People.
I'm going to go and do my own Tim Burton themed article.
The article in question is tittled 10 Examples Of Tim Burton Hating Fat People on the site Film School Rejects.
The person who wrote this seems to think that Tim Burton hates overweight people, and as such made this statement:
"Tim Burton is not a fan of the horizontally-challenged.
That's the conclusion I reached from watching Frankenweenie, an otherwise very pleasant return to form for for the director. What isn't so pleasant is how every paunchy character — the mayor, the gym coach, and the chubby kid whose name doesn't matter — is cackled at by Burton and turned into a visual punch-line. Burton portrays these characters in a way that seems antithetical to how most people perceive him and his films… with a casual dash of mean-spiritedness.
The one constant in Burton's films, aside from Johnny Depp obviously, is that he's always championed the outcasts and made them the eventual heroes of their worlds. Think of the Goth cutter Edward Scissorhands defeating the jock bully, the goofy Amish kid saving the day in Mars Attacks, the friendless Charlie Bucket outlasting the truly bad kids to win the chocolate factory, etc.
Looking back at his work, though, it seems clear that Burton himself has been acting the bully when it comes to even the mildly obese. They're made to be clumsy, goofy, obnoxious and irritating, and if they don't exist strictly as a visual gag they're almost sure to be a villain. Can you think of one overweight hero or true good guy in his films? I can't.
Why would a man so feverishly in favor of defending and uplifting outsiders himself single out a specific group of people to consistently bully throughout his career?"
Ummmm...overweight people have been crudely stereotyped in the media before, you know - in fact it goes back to the old days of slapstick comedies and the like. What makes you think that Tim Burton is following that tradition?
And furthermore....you've put them into two categories "Villain" and "Punchline". Isn't that technically stereotyping as well?
The first example mentioned is:
"1985′s Villain: Francis Buxton (Pee-wee's Big Adventure)"
'There is nothing to the character of Buxton aside from a hatred of Pee-Wee and a desire for his bicycle. On paper Francis is a misunderstood, tragic figure. He's got his daddy's money, but he's utterly friendless. Pee-Wee is loved by everyone, idiosyncrasies and all, and yet he can't help out the poor, lonely Francis and just giving him a damn bicycle? Both Pee-Wee and Burton hate this empathetic man, and it can't only be because he wants to feel the wind between his legs."
Now I have not seen Pee Wee's Big Adventure in a long time but the character of Francis IS supposed to be a bully and Pee Wee's main arch nemesis, but you have to remember that he was horrible to poor Pee Wee throughout the movie.
Also......that bike is Pee Wee's favorite thing in the whole universe. It's like what Teddy is to Mr Bean. It's not just a plain old bicycle, it's his only and one bicycle and the ones he's frequently seen riding on.
Nice going Film School Rejects, way to miss the point.
Next we move onto:
"1988′s Punch Line: Otho (Beetlejuice)
Otho is the biggest snob in a movie filled with snobs, and once again we're dealing with another one-note caricature pitted against attractive, pencil-stick protagonists. Burton uses Otho's weight to show how privileged and pretentious he is, that he eats whatever he wants in his sight, with no other reason whatsoever. Did Burton ever consider that Otho has a lot going on his life? Maybe he's a stress eater whose wife left him? I mean, who really knows what's going on in Otho's head? All Burton knows is that he's too big to be cool and multi-chins are funny when they're scared."
Well duh, of course Otho is a snob - he's SUPPOSED to be like that, you ding-bats! Ummm....are you sure you're not talking about a different big guy here? Because to me it seems that you haven't seen Beetlejuice at all.
It seems to me that you are mixing Otho up with Mr Creosote from Monty Python's The Meaning Of Life or Bluto from Animal House. I don't recall Otho going on an eating spree.
Because I don't recall Otho's weight being used as part of the joke. And like I said earlier....Otho is SUPPOSED to be pretentious and snobbish, he's an artsy type and as such he's supposed to be obnoxious and annoying. Heck....the action figure I have of him isn't called Otho the Obnoxious for nothing, you know.
As for what's going on in his head, he does say that he intends to make the old Maitlands house a tourist attraction by redecorating it - so that's what he was thinking.
his wife so to speak didn't leave him, i'm pretty sure that the Beryl character is supposed to be his wife - or at least a relative of his.
If you didn't know why he freaked out when BJ turned his clothes into a powder blue leisure suit here's why: Otho is very fashion savy, so to him anything that is deemed out dated or unstylish is frowned up - so to him, having to wear something as ridiculous as a pwoder blue leisure suit would be a fate worse than death. And yes I do kind of admit that it's funny seeing him freak out. I still feel very sorry for him though. *picks up Otho action figure* There there Otho, it's alright, I still love ya.
Do more research next time. Please.
On to our next example:
"1989′s Villain: Eckhart (Batman)
Eckhart is the only plump character in any of Batman's major roles, and he's easily the most disgusting character around. Not an easy feat when you compare him to a moderately chubby psychopath like The Joker. He's also super corrupt. Why? Burton's response would probably be, "Because he is big, and a Gotham cop's salary don't pay for that appetite." No other explanations are given so what else can we assume? Batman doesn't need a meditative look into the inner-workings of a filthy cop, but Burton mainly lets the audience know he's filthy based on his appearance alone."
I don't remember this character being in the movie that much, but I don't think he would count as a 'villain' based on looks alone.
Again, this just seems really shallow of you to do something like this, basing one's character on their looks. So to you....big fat guy who happens to smoke a lot and be a criminal = disgusting filthy villain, does it?
And the Joker is NOT chubby, Nicholson was about in his 40's or 50's when Batman first came out, and most depictions of the Joker are tall and skinny.
If you actually did more research before making this assumption, then you would have been able to fix the mistakes you made here.
Now we move onto:
"1992′s Villain: The Penguin (Batman Returns)
Nothing but bad things happen to The Penguin. Pee-Wee was probably bugged more by his size than his penguinness, knowing Burton. The Penguin's shape make sense since he is half-penguin after all, but Burton once again goes out of his way to poke fun at his size. When you see the villain on the little remote control cute ducky device, it's meant to be funny because he is too big for it, not because he is controlling the Batmobile with such a ridiculous device."
Well of course Oswald Cobblepot aka the Penguin is a villain, he's one of the most well-known Batman villains in history.
And yes he's SUPPOSED to be short and chubby - after all he is physically made to look like a penguin - flippers and all.
Technically the scene with him on the kiddie ride is NOT to make a fat-joke, but rather a way for him to control the Batmobile using a remote control device.
Regarding the character, of course he was made to be loathesome in this, that's what made parents complain about it and resulted in the McDonalds toy promotion tie-in getting the axe. Stupid angry soccer moms.
The inspiration for Devito's performance as the Penguin was a sketch that Tim did of a character known as the Hideous Penguin Boy, which would later be seen in The Melancholy Death of Oyster Boy and Other Stories.
This is just another fine example of....Not Doing Research on What You're Supposed To Be Talking About.
Now we move onto this one:
"1993′s Villain: Oogie Boogie (The Tim Burton-produced A Nightmare Before Christmas)
The lovable hero here couldn't be skinnier, so of course the final villain couldn't have been fattier. Why couldn't the Oogie Boogie man have been skinny too? Wouldn't the terrifying design still have been effective? Or do Burton and director Henry Selick believe the horror comes purely out of his size? On a more logistical and nitpicky level, how can the Oogie Boogie man be so big? What does he eat? How can he eat? Too many questions gone unanswered by Burton & Co."
Like I said, yes Oogie is a villain. And a damn fine one at that. But do you know why the reason Oogie Boogie is a big guy in this?
You know those pillows and stuffed animals you have cuddled when you were little? Weeeelll...much like a stuffed animal, Oogie Boogie has 'stuffing' of sorts inside him that keep him from falling apart.
And what is that stuffing you ask? Why it's bugs, if he is unravelled he comes apart and all his bugs fall out. That's why he's portrayed as a big guy in this movie.
I know some people have deemed him a bit racist because he's voiced by an African American, but I think that's just the case of soccer mom stupidity.
Plus he's a tribute to Cab Calloway. Well in terms of singing anyway. And you don't think Oogie can be terrifying? They didn't build up all the suspense leading up to his appearance for nothing, you know.
Hell...why not bring up the Mayor of Halloweentown as well? Since he's short and chubby as well. He's more of a comedic take on the phrase "two-faced politican" though.
Now we look at:
"1996′s Punch Line: Billy Glenn Norris (Mars Attacks)
Burton loves it when this character dies considering it's made out as one of the funnier parts of Mars Attacks. What's weird though is that deep down Billy Glenn Norris is just a guy who wants to serve his country. He's a natural born soldier, but considering how much he's mocked in the film you have to ask yourself… does Tim Burton hate all of our troops or just the chubby ones?"
First of all. Jack Black didn't really became all that famous until he was in High Fidelity, and at the time Mars Attacks came out he was only in a few minor movie roles (i.e Demolition Man, Never Ending Story 3, Waterworld, and a few others) and he doesn't look all that 'chubby' in that photo either - in fact in the movie he looks kinda skinny.
Yes he's a soldier, much like John Candy in Stripes. But is it really his fault for what happened? No. You have to remember that the aliens in this movie are a little crazier and more chaotic than most alien visitors are.
True this is the third movie Jack has been killed off in, but that was for comedic effect and only his lower half was evaporated.
'Research? What's that?'
Now we move to the 2000's with:
"2001′s Punch Line: Limbo (Planet of the Apes)
Limbo is more grating than Mark Wahlberg in this movie, which is saying a lot. Nearly all the other apes are strong and commanding, but the main one we see who isn't so fit is conniving, obnoxious, and lazy. Limbo is out for himself for most of the movie and doesn't care about the greater ramifications of what he's doing. In a sense, he's more vile than the more violent apes of the movie because he's out purely for himself. The meanest ape of all happens to be the chubbiest. Surprise."
Ummmm......Limbo was actually quite a harmless character, he's not a villain, and he's certainly not all that bad.
In fact he's actually one of the few that helps our hero escape by the end of the movie. As for his size.
Gorillas and Orangtuans are certainly the biggest of the ape species, but in contrast to how big and gruff they look they are actually quite intelligent. Not to mention gorillas are awesome!
As for most of the apes coming off as vicious and antagonistic well that's the purpsoe, they absolutely HATE humans and the only apes that aren't vicious are Ari and Limbo among others.
And i'm surprised that you didn't bring up Senator Nado, given that he's played by Glenn Shadix who also played "Otho".
Which brings us to:
"2003′s Villain: Don Price (Big Fish)
Done Price isn't a bad guy by most villain standards. He is a bit of a jerk, especially his "that's my girl!" shtick, but did he deserve to die of a heart attack because Edward Bloom always overshadowed him? No. Besides letting off some steam on Bloom's face, he never did anything horrible in the movie. Unlike Boom, Don Price never abandoned his family or literally annoyed his son to tears, and yet he suffered the younger and funnier death between them."
Now I haven't seen Big Fish, all I know is that Danny Devito plays a ringmaster who happens to be a werewolf.
But if the Done Price character comes across as being a jerk in this movie, that's because he either is or is made to be the antagonist.
And how exactly is his death considered funny? In real life if one is overweight they are prune to health problems including risks of dying at a young age - it's nothing to laugh it, especially if you've read about John Belushi, Chris Farley and John Candy and how they died - of course Belushi and Farley died of an overdose, but Candy's death was a heart attack - since he had a history of heart problems in his family.
I'm sorry but I am just not buying this one bit, are you technically saying that you're right about Burton making overweight people villains or 'punch-lines' as you put it? Well i'm sorry to say this but you're wrong.
With that done we move onto:
"2005′s Punch Line: Augustus Gloop (Charlie and the Chocolate Factory)
Doesn't this picture say it all?"
What? You're not going to go into a specific reason why you think that Augustus qualifies as a 'punch-line'?
Being that this movie is based off a Roald Dahl book, you should know that the kids are always extremely naughty in some way except for a few good kids and the adults are portrayed negatively.
In Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, the 4 bad kids all represent a negative aspect about children: Mike Teevee is obssessed with tv and video games, Violet is over-competitive, Veruca is spoiled, and Augustus enjoys eating way too many sweets.
You should know that by now if you haven't already, that is if you've actually read the book or saw the movie.
And finally we move onto:
"2012 Punch Lines: Every Sizable Character (Frankenweenie)
Out of all of Burton's bashing, this is the strangest example. At the heart of Frankenweenie is a kind-natured, gentle story of a boy and his best friend. But the way the Mayor, that one kid behind the Sea Monkey experiment, and the gym coach are handled feels tonally inappropriate. Why have a nasty joke in a movie going for a big heart? Then again, that question could be asked of most of Burton's movies."
So...you're just going with pretty much not just one character here but a bunch of them? You're not going to be specific about why you think they're considered a punchline according to you? Oh okay then.
To be fair, I have not seen Frankenweenie yet but I plan to. But the fact still stands....that you don't know what you're talking about!
Also....wouldn't Mr Everglot from the Corpse Bride be considered on this list as well? Or Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee? How about Aunt Sponge from James and the Giant Peach?
To conclude this I say this article was the worst article i've ever read and i'm sure a certain artist friend of mine will agree.
You clearly did not do the research before publishing this article and it shows, with several mistakes that could have EASILY been corrected. You clearly don't know Tim Burton films as much as you claim to.
Just because there is a chubby character in a Burton film, doesn't mean that they will be a villain or 'punchline'.
Film School Rejects, you FAIL!
I'm Monstermaster13, and this has been my response to 10 Examples of Tim Burton Hating On Fat People.
I'm going to go and do my own Tim Burton themed article.
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